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Ep. 65 | Taking The Leap with AI - Diego Duque
This week on Shakin' Hands, Jack sits down in Panama City with entrepreneur and problem-solver Diego Quque. From food trucks to software, Diego’s journey has always been about experimentation, learning, and building. Today, his energy is fully behind The Leap, a platform designed to transform the way entrepreneurs launch their businesses. Powered by AI, The Leap helps founders validate ideas, break limiting beliefs, and take faster, smarter action. In this episode, Diego breaks down the tools, mental models, and startup frameworks that can help anyone transition from idea to execution without getting stuck.
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Welcome to Shakin’ Hands, where we provide the platform for entrepreneurs and thought leaders to share their stories in order to hopefully influence others to get out of the rat race and chase their own dreams. If you have any recommendations for guests or questions that you want to be asked, please don't hesitate to reach out. Anyways, if you enjoy the podcast, please like, comment, subscribe and share in order to keep the podcast growing. Otherwise, I'm your host, Jack Moran and this is Shakin’ Hands. If you're looking for business mentorship, I have a place where you can get feedback on your unique personal development and business growth challenges. Over the last year, I've brought together a group of impact driven thought leaders where we meet every single day to discuss psychology, communication, mindset, and business case studies. We have people who have made millions of dollars, lost millions of dollars, Harvard MBAs and new entrepreneurs like you and I. Entrepreneurship can be lonely. So if you're looking for a support system, please follow the link in the description below for some more information. First of all, what is your business to what is what are you doing? What do you got going on? Right? I mean, right now I'm at a very important moment in my life because I started a business two years ago. It's called the Leap. It is a platform that helps entrepreneurs turn business ideas into reality. And we do that with the help of AI. So I launched this two years ago. It had a huge, huge impact. You know, first I develop it myself, I bootstrapped it, I bootstrapped it, this whole thing from day one and first day I released the platform. Next day, I already had, like, 20 users. Like, the next day, I was like, what? What what what's going on here? That was prior to ChatGPT. ChatGPT hasn't been released by then. So I started seeing like, wow, this is this is huge. And, you know, but platform started growing and growing and growing and growing. Right now it I mean, it's been two years already. It has evolved a lot. I mean, this thing already moves very, you know, it moves, it moves faster. So right now, I'm at the point where I needed a team. I was for about eight months, six months ago. I've been looking for a team, you know, a co-founder and and other people to, you know, build cool stuff with. So I bumped into my friend. He's currently in California. He lives in San Francisco. And we started talking. We started kind of dating. Right. We 13 seeing like, how do we if we align in, you know, and they cool things they want, we want to build or we we're building trust. We're working together as see we match in different aspects of business. And I recently joined in his startup, the startup, his name, person. And what, what he does is, sales, automation and customer service through WhatsApp with AI. So I have two roles. You know, I am I am the leap, which is I am the founder, but I'm also recently joined versa. And that's what I've been working for the past four months already. Okay, so with the leap, you said it helps entrepreneurs make their dreams a reality. How how is that done? What is the service that it offers? Great. So it all started when I first launched the first version. So I took, I'm not sure if you're familiarized with a lean canvas. Link. Low. Lean canvas. Lean the lean canvas. No, it's a it's a it's a framework. So basically, the lean canvas is just a business plan. One page. It's a framework where you can just put the parameters of your business. It helps you build a business model really, really fast. It's and it's an agile an agile framework. So what I did is what I put the, the link, pass on this platform. And I added a powered AI powered with AI. So I put a, a an assistant on the side that will that will help you, with the premises of your business. So if I say, you know, what's your, your customer, who's your customer? My customer is this, I don't know, someone who doesn't have a bank account. That's my customer. So this assistant right here, what it's trying to do is, help you fill in the blanks of your business model or your business plan. So if your customer is someone who doesn't have a business, a bank account, then what is the need of that customer? Or what is the problem of that customer? And then it helps you build all the, the, you know, the the gaps that are are there in your business model or your business plan. And after you have the lean Compose to complete it, then you can create your MVP. I mean, you have a landing page so you can go out there and put it somewhere and see what people, if there's any interest, from from real customers out there, you can also do a financial projection and you can do your pitch deck. Basically what we do is we put a set of methodologies and tools within inside a platform, and then we create a process. So it's streamline the process of incubation. And we power that with AI. Well that's really cool. What is the what are the fundamentals in that first stage when you're building that one pager. What are the components of a business to get started? Right. So that's when we talk about the business model, we talk about, you know, the pillars. What is the most important thing about a business? We talk about the customer who the is. Right. The the better. You define who the customer is, the easier is going to get to feel all that that the the paint I call. I also call it call it like painting a painting because it's like, you know, you start, with a clean canvas and then you just start painting a picture, right? So the more defined you have, that ideal, you have the customer, the better the picture is going to look. So you start with the customer, then you start with the problem. You try and solve for that customer. Right? Then you have a solution. Like, what is it, how you're going to solve that cost, that that cost, that customer's problem? What's the value proposition you're bringing in the table for this, customer? You know, so the sounds like the main pillars, you also have the channels, like, how are you going to get to the customer? What's what's going to be your, how are you going to make money out of it? What's going to cost to have this infrastructure running? You know, how are you any different from what's out there? You know that, it's called an unfair advantage. Like what? What do you do different so that, you know, you you differentiate from your cost, your competition. So those are like, that's the first thing you do as a entrepreneur when you jump into the platform, you paint that picture, that very first picture, but you do it really, really fast. So in a matter of five minutes you have a business model. The idea is a lady of this is that we fostered, rapid testing. So you can have this concept and put it to test real quick, see if it works. If not works, then just adjust whatever you have to adjust. So we want to be, allow the, the entrepreneur to be as fast and as clean as possible with, with this platform. So does it take that initial information that you give it in that one pager, and then it floods the landing page with that information? Or do you have to rebuild the landing page afterwards when you have the lean canvas completed? We have a, a builder. So with a click of a button, you get an MVP, you get a, you get a landing page. It's really a landing page. And what he does is he takes all the information of your business, and then it puts it in a, in an MVP. So in a landing page, what is an MVP or a it comes from, from from sports. Most valuable player. Yeah. In business we call that minimum minimum viable product. So what is this thing you have to do to provide value to your customer? Right. Gotcha. So an MVP is like, but what we really do is a landing page. So with this landing page, you can put it, you know, you can share it with your friends, you can put it in LinkedIn, you can put it in Facebook, or you can even put, some, advertising on Google Ads and see if there's any interest from real customers. And that's how we help the entrepreneurs with the validation process as well. It's not only about working, abstract or working in the concept, but also about like, put it to the test, see what people how people react to it and if there's any interest. And, I guess that gets you going. It's like a digital brochure or a pitch deck, pretty much pretty much, it's presented as a, as a, a landing page. So a place where you land and you, understand, get to know a business, you know, it's just like what you said, you know, like how you and how you, learn about a business. Pretty much what are the key pieces of information that should be communicated through that landing page? That's great. The first thing, the most important thing is a value proposition that first, whenever you enter a, a, a website or any website, the first words that you read, you know that the section hero, that's what they call it, right? The section here. And so you you read the first three words. That statement why they're you know, we are the I don't know what's I don't know, but, let's talk about, an example. I'm thinking about a Spanish, one, but it's platform, which is a platform for, for, developers where people learn how to, how to code. And the value proposition for that is, we are the school of developers for Latin America. So that first sentence that you read right there in the the hero section, I believe is the most important one. After that, maybe you can adjust or you can explain what the features are of your of your product, like what it does. And then, you know, maybe some testimonials like what people can accomplish with your product, how do they how do they make themselves better, or what they do with your product and what goals or what has helped them? Is she achieved with with with your product. So so yeah, I mean, those are the main components of a of a landing. What do you know what percentage of people, convert or make an action just based on that initial statement versus the amount of people that go more granular before making that action? You mean like, I mean, I measured one of the things that I do with, when I first started was I would call all my users. So whenever they sign up to my landing page, to my to my service or my platform, they I would ask them for their WhatsApp number. WhatsApp in Latin America, it's number one messaging app, right? So I would call each one of them my I don't know, the first 200 300 users on my platform. I would call them and ask for, you know, hey, I want to you I want understand why you came to my platform. How was your experience and all that? And and that's how I, you know, I started building on top of that link, ambassador or that first, a step in the process. I started building, you know, the the landing page and, you know, the financial projections and other features that derive from this link. Right. So I started measuring and at the beginning, the people who would enter my platform and started, you know, being the first, you know, the, the first thing was to feel the, the customer or the first premises on the, on their business model. And then after that, one thing that I thought was, okay, how many people are finishing this business model? I mean, there's people are, you know, are built a story in a lean canvas, but how many of them are actually finishing one? So I started measuring that. And then after I put a, a video, a tutorial, BDO ad, I did some adjustments, the total amount of people that finish a lean canvas, it's about 45%. So 100 from the hundred percent of people who went through my platform and and register, 45% finished a business model. And after that, the conversion rate starts. So business model first 45%. After that, if they go for it for a landing page, that's where we gets a little bit more complicated because up people finish their business model. And then if they want to build a landing page with AI because we all do, we do this all with AI. The conversion rate, drops a little bit drastically. Maybe just 20% of the people that finish a business model do a landing page or a financial projection or even a business plan, because we also help them with the business plan. What is then the most? Because I'm sure you guys are collecting a lot of data through this, like digital strategy. What is the most interesting piece of or most interesting, like realization that you've had through this business or, through the data that you're collecting from this business, the through that user experience. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of, things that I can think of. The first thing that I, one of the moments. So we, we try to measure as much as we can from our users interaction. So the first thing that we saw was, you know, we have the platform and we have. So once you entered the platform you have this link bar, which is just a framework, is a framework where you put the different premises, like what's your customer? Who's your customer, what's the problem you're trying to solve for this customer? You put all this premises there, but we have an assistant. This is assistant only appears when you feel one of the premises. It appears right here. And when this action happened, when the assistant appeared in the screen, that was the help moment for the user. Because then they they understood what the platform did when they when this happened, this was the moment for them. So you know, I feel in the first premises who is my customer. And then an assistant comes in and says, hey, is this your customer? This is the problem that you're trying to solve for you, for your customer. So what that happened. So what what that, told the user was that the the assistant was there to help them with the business model. So they would collaborate human or user with AI to, build this business model. So that was one of the moments, that we realized it was very important when the assistant jumps into the screen and people realize, oh, okay, this is the assistant, this is this guy says here to help me. So, so there were the we we were able we were able to jump, to increase the, the the finishing rate of link numbers when we realized this were kind of things that would allow the user to understand what the platform did or did they they understand better what what it did. So, yeah, I mean, we measure a lot of things, even the conversion rate from Lincoln Base to landing page to financial projection, that conversion rate. And we always try to horn so that conversion rate increases, you know, it goes up. And we also do what with that with retargeting. So whenever someone does not finish a link and link up, for instance, you know, it's it started it, but it didn't finish it. It's like an abandoned cart. Exactly. So we we send them an email three, three days, three days later. Hey, don't leave your your ideas. Your ideas have potential. Come back here. Finish your link. Bus. And that, you know, that's that, increase the the the likelihood of someone finishing the link up as a little less interesting. Yeah. Is this the first business you've ever done? No, I've done, a couple of other businesses. This is my first, digital business, though. Gotcha. Have they been successful or they've been, difficult entrepreneur or. No. No, I mean, I mean, they're all successful to to to a certain extent. I think the most recent successful one, was during the pandemic year. It was, so, you know, when this whole thing started, people were in their, in the, in their houses. They didn't really have much to do. In the world, the health concerns, you know, they had to wear a mask and they have to wear, face shields and all this. So my brother and I started importing face shields from Colombia, but these were face to face shields. That would my my uncle, who owns a, a factory of motorcycle accessories and one of the his best is helmets. So during the pandemic years, he saw, he thought, okay, I'm not going to sell more helmets. What am I going to do? So he created sells face shields from the, you know, the the the helmet. Yeah. How do you hold this thing? The visor, the visor. So he created those, face shields with that. And it was a he he got billionaire and then he got millionaire. And so he told us like, hey, I'm really I'm selling this really well here in Colombia. He's in Colombia. And he told us, like, hey, sell those in battle. And we started selling like crazy. During the pandemic years, we sold more than, 50,000 face shields, a ticket of 12 to $15 apiece. So you have have you always known that you want to be an entrepreneur? Yes. That's a great question. I come from a family business background. You know, I, I remember when I was younger, I was, I was a child. I would go to my, my parents office. They were building this company. Right. And I would play around with the, you know, the family, the office equipment and just fooling around and I was, I guess I was making disasters while some other people were working, you know, and I remember playing with the boxes and, you know, just being there as a child. So I've been always exposed to business. I always tell my friends whenever we have dinner at home, for instance, you know, I go to my parents for dinner. There's always business talk. There's always, you know, the dinner table. We talk about you know, the customer. What was they? This. Did you see what happened to this customer? Did you? Hey, did you hear about the news or what do you think about this strategy? Look at this business idea that, that I'm thinking of. So there's always business talk at the dinner table. And I think it just. I guess business runs in my veins, you know? So this is a very young age. I was exposed to that. I think as an entrepreneur, we have to have a threshold for risk. Right? That's like a big intrinsic value for an entrepreneur. What is the biggest risk that you have taken to date that has paid off? The biggest risk of taking this entrepreneur? That's that's a good question. That is a good question. I mean, you always, been an entrepreneur. It's, it's a place of a lot of uncertainty always in. And you're always thinking about the future. You you kind of live in the future because you're trying to build that teacher. Right? So, there's there's always risk. There's always risks for any business. There's always there's always risk. The biggest risk right now for me is that. And I guess I'm living this right here, right now, is that I'm trying to build a lot of different things. But I have a venue role right now. So I have the leap, which is, you know, the the company that I found that two years ago and I've recently joined versa, which is a company that I'm telling you that we do sales, automation and customer service through WhatsApp. With AI. I'm all about AI right now and there's so much opportunity. There's so much opportunity, but there's has to be a moment. There has to be a point where I have to choose and, you know, prioritize what I'm going to do from now on. And really, I guess, nail on the startup that I want to pursue when I and I know this is the one that's going to, you know, make a difference and, and really grow exponentially in this, you know, this is the this is the unicorn that I've been looking for it. So, so I guess the rest point out for me is, you know, I'm trying the I'm incubating different ideas right now, and, and, you know, I, I, I might, maybe lose a lot of opportunities for that because I'm not I have to put at my effort or my hundred percent of time in one of them eventually. And I'm going to have to choose. That's pretty much right. Hey, Elon Musk unveiled like, what, 3 billion multibillion dollar companies all at once? So it is possible I guess so, but it it's not a he's a freak though. He's a freak. And also also it's not I mean it's it's it's hard it's hard because you have so much only so much hours, many hours in the in and during the day. Right. You have this amount of energy. I mean, you're limited. You're limited. So it's not like you have a limited amount of time, an unlimited amount of energy, to put everything in all the different ideas that you get. So, yeah, that's that you have to choose. Eventually. You have to focus on. What do you think I is so important? And what impact do you think it's going to have on business moving forward? Yeah, I it's definitely changing things. Definitely changing things. It's, I always say it's we're living a new revolution. They call it AI revolution, if you will. Yeah. Just like it happen. Maybe. So by now. You know, right now it's very, trendy. You know, the agents, you know how they call these agents or the AI agents this very trendy right now. So I always say, okay. Yeah, you're building an agent, but what does your agent do? I hope you're building your agent for what is what is it solving? Same thing. Same principle as it used to be. When you people were, they were saying like, hey, I'm building an app. Yeah, but what is your app doing? Like, what are you who are you building this app for? What is your app going to? Salt. Right. Same thing is what is happening with AI. So a lot of opportunities are are here in in this moment with this new technology. But the same principle applies. I mean, you have to solve problems with this new technology. How are you going to solve it? Who are you going to solve the with? How are you going to sell it? You know, how you how how are you going to market this? How is it going to grow? How's it going to, you know, impact us as many past as many people as possible. So, there's a lot of opportunities as you, as I said, about with AI, and I think it's through the next 3 to 5 years, it's, I mean, the world is going to change a lot. Should we be scared? I don't know, the question is, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, the scare not not I, I like to think, I like I like to see things, the glass half full, right. Like, with positivity, I guess. And I think at the end it's going to create more value and more a better quality of life for everybody. Better decisions, better businesses, more efficient, more efficiency overall. So I think in, in it's, it's going to be best for humanity. Whatever AI is doing. Yeah. I think like it's a testament that entrepreneurs that adapt with the change are going to be successful and the ones that are unable to adapt with it are going to be left behind. And it's very similar to like the.com bubble. You know, how the, internet change business, like, you see less retail storefronts and now more, online storefronts and the people that were unable to make that transition were left behind. It's going to be the same thing with, I you have to look at this tool in this resource and say, how can this make my business better? And how can I grow with it and utilize it to be successful? And if you don't have that intuition and that ability to adapt, that is going to those people wouldn't have survived anyway. Correct? Correct. It is about, it is about adapting, as you said, you know, the, the basis that are able to adapt to this new technology and, and that they are able to implement, to implement that in their business as fast as possible. The ones that are innovators or early adopters of this new technology are the ones that are going to have the edge in the future. The very next 2 to 3 years. Because, I mean, it's just it's going to be hard to compete if you don't have any AI, in your business, even if it's just for, for selling purposes, even it's for making your inventory more efficient or I mean, there's so many applications that, I mean, we cannot even imagine right now the amount of applications that I has for businesses, but, it's it's a it's a completely game changer for everybody. What do you think is the easiest way or the most immediate way to implement AI within your business? What, like what if I'm a business owner? What should I say? This process is what I should immediately replace or this is the easiest way to integrate this within my business. Obviously it can be a little bit case by case button right? I think the best thing you can do right now, if you're a business owner, is starting starting to get, familiarized with it. So, you know, maybe familiarized. Oh, familiarize. Yeah. Familiar with with with AI. So, you know, download ChatGPT, download any of these elements, whatever Lem you want and start it and give it give them to your employees. Just give, give it give this tools to them and see what they can do. So, you'll see you'll find that they will get very creative with it. They will. For instance, I heard about this story about a guy who owns a, a factory for, I believe it was a, a, a source, right. For, you know, for a food source. So he had this, factory and he gave the recipe for the for the source to GPT. And as asked the GPT to make it more, the formula to make it more efficient. No way. And GPT did it. So he was able to reduce the cost of the source. But and it's still keeping the, you know, the quality and the flavor and everything, of the source, the good qualities of the source at a lower at a lower, cost. So I think the best thing to start right now, if you're a business owner, is definitely that, or just pay for any ChatGPT landlord, whatever you want, a Gemini, Gemini or whatever. Just pay for it and give it to your two employees and see, see what happens. What I find to be super interesting is just that power to automate a business like you can take a very simple process and automated, and that business becomes an asset that requires very little human input. And you basically have like an engine that's, you know, AI driven that can produce cash flow, which like, you know, it's more and more business or going that route. But the implications of that, like every person with AI, has the ability to create a business that solves some problem completely, automate it and make that engine produce cash flow for themselves. Correct? Correct. I mean, the the implications of that can I mean, we still don't know the implications for that to be honest. For instance, in our in our view of things, this new company that I was telling you about, Burchard and the does sales automation and, and, customer service through WhatsApp with I of course, there's a lot of resistance from some customers and even the people who are sitting at the front lines of, of businesses. Right? Yeah. Those people who are answering the WhatsApp right. Hey, I want to know about this product. You know, those people that answer the WhatsApp, there's a lot of resistance and people think, you know, those jobs are going to disappear. But where we really think, with pizza and the experience we've had so far with, with, with our customers is that there is no there's the human factor has to be there. What we really doing is we are amplifying that human. We are expanding the reach of that human right. And we believe in this principle that is called, the pilot on a plane principle. I don't know if you heard of, but it's pretty much that we have the technology for airplanes to fly by themselves. Right. So why do we have pilots? Would you would you would you hop on an airplane with that? With no pilot? Probably. And maybe you maybe you maybe you're, you know, you're you're a keen and eager to new technology. But most of the people want because, you know, they want to feel safe, that there's a human behind the wheel. And if something happens, he's there to take control of the situation. Yeah. So same thing I think applies to I, I think what we're looking for is it's, a synergy between human and AI, and that's where we, we need to try to do with our company whenever we implement, implement a new AI assistant, a sales assistant, in one of the companies that we have, there's always the human, but finishes the sale. So it's we call it the handoff. So basically our assistant is the one that takes the order and, respond any other queries for the customer, but then it hands off that sale to the human. So the human takes off that take, takes on that sale, and then it finishes, you know, it takes the customer through the whole process or the whole phone and all the process. But at some point you're going to be able to replace that handoff and automate that. It's it's not that that's, that's that's a good point. That's a good point. I guess that has that I mean, I don't know, that'll, that'll come to, to a to the, to, to the philosophy or the culture of the organization you're working with. I always say, you know, just kind of dreaming, you know, how sometimes you go to trade shows and these fairs for businesses and there's there's this this, business that says, like, this is a family owned business, right? I guess there's going to be a point in the future where you're going to go to this fairs, and this is a humans run company. This is only run by humans. You know, it's hilarious, right? So I mean, that's that I think it's going to be that it's going to come to that point like, hey, if we're easy to think about, we run a this is a company run by humans, you know, to support us. This is not there's no robots involved here. We just keep trying to make a living. Right. So I that's why I imagine an invasion in the future. Because obviously, automation is going to take a lot of jobs. Well, I've been seeing this, like, thing on Instagram get advertised to me. It's this guy. He's selling this, like, framework for an AI business. And he essentially has, like, all these different people within the company that are at AI prompts. And so he would essentially prompt a chat bot like, ChatGPT like this is your job description. These are the attributes. So you have the AI CEO, the AI CEO, CFO. And then within those you have like teams that are all AI and they're all communicating with each other and having meetings like it's the most insane thing that I've ever seen. So there's a lead coming in through the funnel, and then all these problems are getting diagnosed based on like what that bot is prompted to do, which that bot receiving that specific responsibility is then delegating through the team of it's insane. And it just like inspires me. It's like, wow, the capabilities of this. And it still requires that human element because you needed some creativity from a human to say, oh, I can utilize ChatGPT to create 15 different people within a company and build that company through AI. And that, you know, idea wouldn't have come without that human input. Right? But still, it's just like very, very interesting and like, inspiring to see what the possibilities are through these new technologies. Definitely. I mean, the future will tell, right? I mean, we we might see AI, we might see just companies run by robots, pure robots from, you know, from the executive power to the middle management or, you know, everything to the operations. We might see companies that are run by labs or robots, if you will. But I think what we should really I mean, that really depends on, in our view of things, we really want to create a synergy between the human and the and the and the and the AI. Or maybe I mean, if, I mean, if we think further down the road, maybe we just kind of have to somewhere in the line, you know, what what, Elon Musk is doing with Neuralink. Yeah. Just fully integrate. Fully integrate. You know, it's, it's symbiosis right there. Right? Yeah. Well, if you look at our cell phones, it's already almost, although it's not attached to us, it's already kind of been an appendage where we're, like, storing information instead of using our brain to store that information. We have these memories that are stored within the phone. So it is almost like being like some cyborg, like, although it's like an external device, like we are already. I mean, you see people on the streets all the time. It's like an appendage for them, and they're relying on it so much as a resource that have allowed humans to get to another level because they have this other resource. So it's yeah, it's like human biology interfacing with technology. Right? Right, right. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the implications of that would be. You know, whenever, whenever we have that thing stored in our brains and then, you know, how, how how would the human evolve from there? Yeah. Sometimes I wonder that. Right. So we have this thing and imagine we have this electrical thing in our brains and then couple millions of years of evolution. What's going to happen with that thing? I mean, are we going to be are we going to be born with that space someday because it's already dead knows that. And so something goes in there. I mean, what's going to happen with with human down the road with evolution and couple of thousands of years out down the road, it's definitely gonna impact it. I think, like, you know, that evolution is going to say I don't need to put energy into these things that I used to put energy into. Like, now I can put it into this bucket instead. And, you know, maybe it expands our consciousness or our awareness or something. But, you know, who knows? We'll see. It's definitely going to have an impact. Definitely, definitely. I mean, it's, it's, I guess it's it's it's interesting to think of this things and, but at the same time, you it's kind of you it's a little bit scary as well, you know, because you think of all the implications on how human life it's going to change in the next. I don't know how couple of millions or or thousands of years. So yeah, it's this, this topic. It's amazing. I mean I love it. Yeah, I, I for me right now is number one thing. Yeah. It's super cool. What is the single biggest piece of advice. And this is my final question. What is the single biggest piece of advice that you would give to entrepreneurs that you have learned through your entrepreneurial journey? I mean, there's many things. I mean, the the learnings are, many there are many learnings from from being an entrepreneur. But I think the best thing that I could say to someone who is younger or, you know, a young entrepreneur or aspiring entrepreneurs is start as early as possible. If you're 16 years old or 18 years old, I mean, get out there, get real life experience, get a job. You know, I don't know, whatever, whatever you want, but just get real life experience, get out there, start learning from there from now. Launch a business as soon as you can. It can be it can be small thing. You just sell something. Whatever. But start as soon as possible, and then you'll see that ten years down the road, you'll probably be somewhere. Yeah. For sure. That's great advice. If people are interested in your businesses, your services, or just want to connect with you. Where can I find you? Sure. You can find me at duquediego, duquediego on Instagram, duquediego and TikTok or, on my landing page. And, the.leap.xyz You can also find me there. Sweet. And we'll we'll link everything below this episode. So yeah, I appreciate you coming on. It's been awesome and great. Thank you. Thank you for having me here. Absolutely. All right. Good. That was great.
